6. Prestige Exceptions

6.1. No Prestige

There are certain people out there, like the more anarchic Brujah, who are considered beyond the pail by the Toreador. Their level of behaviour is simply too disruptive and spoils everyone's enjoyment, even if it doesn't actually damage valuable works of art. These people are regarded as having no prestige.

Occasionally ( Jason McVae springs to mind) a Toreador may drop to this level. Though it is an unusual event. In this case:

Their opinion is of no weight in prestige challenges.

It is considered a favour to them, by the host, if they are invited to a Toreador ball.

They have a prestige handicap in creating NPCs and must take a point out of one area.

6.2. Toreador Prestige for Non-Clan Members

Certain important individuals in the city outside the clan are considered to have Toreador prestige. They tend not to play the Toreador prestige games, although they may be affronted by disrespect for status (deliberately exclude only one primogen at your peril). However, they can be used to "up" (or "down") the prestige of your party and their opinions may carry weight in a prestige challenge. They have fairly static prestige which will generally be:

GOOD PRESTIGE

The Prince

Tremere and Ventrue Primogen

AVERAGE PRESTIGE

Gangrel, Brujah, Nosferatu and Malkavian Primogen

Harpy

Respected Tremere and Ventrue

LOW PRESTIGE

Sheriff, Keeper of Elysium

Respected Gangrel, Brujah, Nosferatu and Malkavians

Ordinary Tremere and Ventrue

NO PRESTIGE

Ordinary Gangrel, Brujah, Nosferatu and Malkavians

Obviously if any of these people turn out to be particularly entertaining or artistic then the prestige is higher. If, on the other hand, their behaviour is particularly boorish then their prestige is lower.

Rules Ammendmants: Producing and Selling Art